[Helma-user] managing helma collections

[tobias.schaefer at orf.at]

hi maksim

> I guess the real question is: can this be implemented in the current
> persistance subsystem or is it such a radical change that it needs to
> be done in a completely reworked persistance layer for something like
> helma 2?

indeed, this is a question. but on the other hand: if we do not provide such a feature for helma 1.x it will remain a pretty weak spot in an overall great application server.

imho, it's something helma stays even behind php (not because it wouldn't be possible by issueing an arbitrary sql statement but because it is not built-in the divine helma-like way.)

so the question might rather be: does helma 1.x deserve to lack this feature?

> Actually I'd also like to add that it would be great if this could be
> supported for both the sql *and* xml db's as that would really bring
> the xml db implementation upto par with the sql, in terms of features
> if not performance.   

i second joshua's consideration that for making the xml db work equivalently it would take some really comprehensive work on the xml db code. of course, i'd love to see that - in fact, i'd love to see the xml db being queried like an sql one.

however, history tells me the xml db has not a very high priority in the development of helma, at least not anymore. (probably rightly so.)

ciao,
tobi