[Helma-user] more server side js

[Chris Zumbrunn]

On Dec 14, 2007, at 8:59 , Juerg Lehni wrote:

> Interesting:
>
> I googled appjet + helma and found this:
>
> "We use Helma for our (unlaunched) YC startup, and we love it.
> It's faster than rails, and IMO nicer to develop with. Having all the
> Java libraries without having to code in Java is sweet. The ORM is
> really well-designed and the built-in object cache is super fast. The
> template system has its quirks, but once you get used to it, is also
> really sweet.
>
> It's a shame helma wasn't documented or evangelized as well as rails
> was. I think it's a better framework that just didn't catch on because
> it wasn't marketed well."
>
> http://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=aaroniba
>
> And then also, on their own site, there was a time when Helma errors
> appeared:
>
> Macro error in this.guideExample: ReferenceError: "hcl" is not
> defined. (/appjet/live/helma-1.6.0/../frontend/helma_apps/appjet/code/
> Global/global_functions.js#250)]
>
> http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:NicL0jduYr8J:appjet.com/docs/guide/printing+appjet+helma&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&client=safari
>
> Now that's good news for Helma, isn't it (not the errors, but the fact
> that this might become Helma's killer app)?

Yes, on the page Maks mentioned, John Resig also quotes Aaron Iba  
saying: "Oh, I should also mention that the frontend uses jQuery and  
the server-side app logic is entirely in Helma."

I don't particularly like the way they did it. Smell to much like PHP  
for my taste. However, that might exactly be what is needed to give it  
the killer app appeal. At the very least, this could help plow the way  
for something more elegant, if anything.

Chris