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<description>&lt;div class=&#39;diffbody&#39;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;width:2em; color:#999;&quot;&gt;3&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&#39;diffremoved&#39;&gt;&amp;lt;a href=&amp;quot;http://www.flickr.com/photos/glacionaut/2472444001/in/set-72157604925822114/&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;img src=&amp;quot;http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3271/2472444001_28ccd2f47d.jpg&amp;quot; alt=&amp;quot;Helma meeting schedule&amp;quot; width=&amp;quot;375&amp;quot; height=&amp;quot;500&amp;quot; border=&amp;quot;0&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;float:right; margin: 10px 0 10px 10px;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/a&amp;gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;width:2em; color:#999;&quot;&gt;4&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&#39;diffremoved&#39;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;width:2em; color:#999;&quot;&gt;11&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&#39;diffadded&#39;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;width:2em; color:#999;&quot;&gt;12&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&#39;diffadded&#39;&gt;&amp;lt;a href=&amp;quot;http://www.flickr.com/photos/glacionaut/2472444001/in/set-72157604925822114/&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;img src=&amp;quot;http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3271/2472444001_28ccd2f47d.jpg&amp;quot; alt=&amp;quot;Helma meeting schedule&amp;quot; width=&amp;quot;375&amp;quot; height=&amp;quot;500&amp;quot; border=&amp;quot;0&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;float:right; margin: 10px 0 10px 10px;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/a&amp;gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 13:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&lt;div class=&#39;diffbody&#39;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;width:2em; color:#999;&quot;&gt;9&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;=== A Rails-like framework built on Helma &lt;span class=&#39;diffremoved&#39;&gt;NG&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&#39;diffadded&#39;&gt;(NG)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 14:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&lt;div class=&#39;diffbody&#39;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;width:2em; color:#999;&quot;&gt;1&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&#39;diffremoved&#39;&gt;&amp;lt;a href=&amp;quot;http://www.flickr.com/photos/glacionaut/2472444001/in/set-72157604925822114/&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;img src=&amp;quot;http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3271/2472444001_28ccd2f47d.jpg&amp;quot; alt=&amp;quot;Helma meeting schedule&amp;quot; width=&amp;quot;375&amp;quot; height=&amp;quot;500&amp;quot; border=&amp;quot;0&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;float:right; margin: 0 0 10px 10px;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/a&amp;gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;width:2em; color:#999;&quot;&gt;2&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&#39;diffremoved&#39;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;width:2em; color:#999;&quot;&gt;3&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&#39;diffadded&#39;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;width:2em; color:#999;&quot;&gt;4&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&#39;diffadded&#39;&gt;&amp;lt;a href=&amp;quot;http://www.flickr.com/photos/glacionaut/2472444001/in/set-72157604925822114/&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;img src=&amp;quot;http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3271/2472444001_28ccd2f47d.jpg&amp;quot; alt=&amp;quot;Helma meeting schedule&amp;quot; width=&amp;quot;375&amp;quot; height=&amp;quot;500&amp;quot; border=&amp;quot;0&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;float:right; margin: 10px 0 10px 10px;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/a&amp;gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 14:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&lt;div class=&#39;diffbody&#39;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;width:2em; color:#999;&quot;&gt;1&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&#39;diffremoved&#39;&gt;Here I try to compile a list of notes from yesterday&#39;s *Helma users meeting|helma meeting spring 2008* at WerkzeugH&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&#39;diffadded&#39;&gt;&amp;lt;a href=&amp;quot;http://www&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;span class=&#39;diffadded&#39;&gt;flickr.com/photos/glacionaut/2472444001/in/set-72157604925822114/&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;img src=&amp;quot;http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3271/2472444001_28ccd2f47d.jpg&amp;quot;&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;span class=&#39;diffremoved&#39;&gt;I don&#39;t have any notes as I was deeply involved in the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&#39;diffadded&#39;&gt;alt=&amp;quot;Helma &lt;/span&gt;meeting &lt;span class=&#39;diffremoved&#39;&gt;most of the time,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&#39;diffadded&#39;&gt;schedule&amp;quot;&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;span class=&#39;diffremoved&#39;&gt;so please feel free to add your notes.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&#39;diffadded&#39;&gt;width=&amp;quot;375&amp;quot;&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;span class=&#39;diffremoved&#39;&gt;Foto uploads are also welcome!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&#39;diffadded&#39;&gt;height=&amp;quot;500&amp;quot; border=&amp;quot;0&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;float:right; margin: 0 0 10px 10px;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/a&amp;gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;width:2em; color:#999;&quot;&gt;2&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&#39;diffadded&#39;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;width:2em; color:#999;&quot;&gt;3&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&#39;diffadded&#39;&gt;This is an pretty incomplete list of notes from yesterday&#39;s *Helma users meeting|helma meeting spring 2008* at WerkzeugH. I don&#39;t have any notes as I was deeply involved in the meeting most of the time, so please feel free to add your notes. Foto uploads are also welcome!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 14:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&lt;div class=&#39;diffbody&#39;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;width:2em; color:#999;&quot;&gt;23&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&#39;diffadded&#39;&gt;=== Pictures of the meeting&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;width:2em; color:#999;&quot;&gt;24&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&#39;diffadded&#39;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;width:2em; color:#999;&quot;&gt;25&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&#39;diffadded&#39;&gt;can be found here: *http://www.flickr.com/photos/glacionaut/sets/72157604925822114/*&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;width:2em; color:#999;&quot;&gt;26&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&#39;diffadded&#39;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 13:58:41 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&lt;div class=&#39;diffbody&#39;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;width:2em; color:#999;&quot;&gt;9&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;Matthias Platzer showed a demo of a framework he built on Helma NG inspired by Ruby on Rails. This included Rails-like URL dispatching, controller, model, and view classes/modules. He also showed how inheritance can be used with NG module scopes.&lt;span class=&#39;diffadded&#39;&gt; The presentation is published at *matsblog.com/stories/4913260|http://www.matsblog.com/stories/4913260/*&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 13:50:26 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&lt;ul class=&#39;diffproperties&#39;&gt;&lt;li&gt;Set &lt;span class=&#39;diffpropname&#39;&gt;tags&lt;/span&gt; to &lt;span class=&#39;diffadded&#39;&gt;community&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;div class=&#39;diffbody&#39;&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;width:2em; color:#999;&quot;&gt;1&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&#39;diffadded&#39;&gt;Here I try to compile a list of notes from yesterday&#39;s *Helma users meeting|helma meeting spring 2008* at WerkzeugH. I don&#39;t have any notes as I was deeply involved in the meeting most of the time, so please feel free to add your notes. Foto uploads are also welcome!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;width:2em; color:#999;&quot;&gt;3&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&#39;diffadded&#39;&gt;=== Presentation of Helma NG &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;width:2em; color:#999;&quot;&gt;4&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&#39;diffadded&#39;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;width:2em; color:#999;&quot;&gt;5&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&#39;diffadded&#39;&gt;Hannes Walln&amp;ouml;fer made a presentation on *Helma NG*. The slides for the presentation *are available at henso.com|http://www.henso.com/files/helma-ng-presentation/*. I also demoed a lot of stuff in the NG shell and web interface.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;width:2em; color:#999;&quot;&gt;6&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&#39;diffadded&#39;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;width:2em; color:#999;&quot;&gt;7&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&#39;diffadded&#39;&gt;=== A Rails-like framework built on Helma NG&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;width:2em; color:#999;&quot;&gt;8&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&#39;diffadded&#39;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;width:2em; color:#999;&quot;&gt;9&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&#39;diffadded&#39;&gt;Matthias Platzer showed a demo of a framework he built on Helma NG inspired by Ruby on Rails. This included Rails-like URL dispatching, controller, model, and view classes/modules. He also showed how inheritance can be used with NG module scopes.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;width:2em; color:#999;&quot;&gt;10&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&#39;diffadded&#39;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;width:2em; color:#999;&quot;&gt;11&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&#39;diffadded&#39;&gt;=== Discussion on a non-profit support organisation for Helma&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;width:2em; color:#999;&quot;&gt;12&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&#39;diffadded&#39;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;width:2em; color:#999;&quot;&gt;13&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&#39;diffadded&#39;&gt;Chris Zumbrunn brought up the topic of a non-profit organisation to serve as promoter as well as an interface between commercial entities interested in using Helma and the Helma developers. In the middle term, such an organisation could be self-sustained by serving as a consultancy or mediator for commercial users of Helma. In the short term and for the bootstrapping process, some funding would be required. The consensus was that such an institution would be a good thing and should be supported. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;width:2em; color:#999;&quot;&gt;14&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&#39;diffadded&#39;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;width:2em; color:#999;&quot;&gt;15&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&#39;diffadded&#39;&gt;=== Broadening the contributor base, fixing infrastructure&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;width:2em; color:#999;&quot;&gt;16&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&#39;diffadded&#39;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;width:2em; color:#999;&quot;&gt;17&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&#39;diffadded&#39;&gt;Another important topic was the inclusion of more people in the development process. A number of good ideas were brought up: The contribution to the Helma Wiki should be explicitly encouraged, IRC channel logs should be more available, and the site structure needs to be consolidated. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;width:2em; color:#999;&quot;&gt;18&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&#39;diffadded&#39;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;width:2em; color:#999;&quot;&gt;19&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&#39;diffadded&#39;&gt;=== Helma NG module repository&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;width:2em; color:#999;&quot;&gt;20&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&#39;diffadded&#39;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;width:2em; color:#999;&quot;&gt;21&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&#39;diffadded&#39;&gt;Maybe the most important decision was to build a platform for contributed modules for Helma NG and the inclusion of a module/plugin manager to easily browse and install plugins. The infrastructure will include code repositories (most probably subversion) and a dedicated wiki space. Various technical aspects and details were discussed.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;width:2em; color:#999;&quot;&gt;22&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&#39;diffadded&#39;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;width:2em; color:#999;&quot;&gt;23&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&#39;diffadded&#39;&gt;=== Your topic here&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;width:2em; color:#999;&quot;&gt;24&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&#39;diffadded&#39;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;width:2em; color:#999;&quot;&gt;25&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&#39;diffadded&#39;&gt;The list above is very incomplete, as a lot more things were discussed. Feel free to add the stuff that was important to you!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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